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Moralizing with him and with democrats you see perhaps something similar happening with those core conservative voters. second observations is with the voerts, these are not flippant voters. they're -- they have core convictions. they vote on issues and for time and time again, they have been told a lot of stories about things that don't happen. and what they're watching with this president -- >> what do you mean by that? >> people pro life or they're -- you know, marriage or pro life, core to that constituency, they believe they have been told a lot of stories by politicians that have not com...

Cannot have this, we cannot stand for this. that has to stop. again, i think it's a great opportunity for the president, let trump be trump, but let trump bring it down by a couple of degrees. i think he's doing this because i think the office is in some way tempering him, not changing him, not changing the core convictions, but i think the burdens of the job are making him a more serious person and i think that's to his advantage. let these people scream, he go about the business of improving the economy, altering foreign relations and the like. there's opportunity here in this crisis as the ...

Conspiracy of leadership that practices extortion, robbery oppressing the poor and mistreatment of the foreigner by denying them justice. jesus said judgment will come to a nation that does not welcome a neighbor. >> let's go to bishop curry, there have been some religious leaders who pushed back against this policy. cardinal dinardo say that while protecting our borders is important, we can and must do bedder as a government and as a society to find other ways to ensure they society. separating babies from their mothers is not immoral. one of our core convictions is that god established famil...

You've spurred an optimism in this country that's setting records. i'm deeply humbled as your vice president to be able to be here. i want to thank you for speaking on behalf of and fighting every day for the forgotten men and women of america. >> matthew, a number of people come away saying he is not of this world. question to you is who is mike pence in your view? >> well, it's really hard to say. i mean the on sbsequiousness an the flattery are such a constant now, and they have been ever since he was named to donald trump's ticket in july of 2016. like you said, i covered him on the campai...

The country that is setting records. i'm deeply humble as your vice president to be here. i want to thank you for fighting of the forgotten men and women of america. >> matthew, a number of people come away saying he is not of this world. who is mike pence in your view? >> well t is hard to say. the flattery are such a constant and they have been since he was named donald trump's ticket in ja july 16. the cadences and lines, they are all the same. he is on repeat and sticks to the script and makes sure he is always praising president trump. who is mike pence? i don't know. he doesn't really se...