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Jack smith's team is not only speaking to him, but they're also asking questions of the timeline surrounding his firing? >> yeah, so, jack smith is a career non political very serious federal prosecutor, like laura before she left before -- >> oh, my god, the fan of the courtside podcast, thank you so much, wow, touching. >> and what i think he's trying to do is really demonstrates something we called mens rhea, criminal intent, which is did donald trump act with criminal intent. the way to look at that is starting in february 2020, as the cnn story yesterday show, that smith is investigating ...

About at the entry to the segment, where trump is basically briefed by his various intelligence heads and is so enamored of the security in place for the election that he wants to put out a press release about it or suggest the agencies put out a press release about it and brag about the security of the election. how meaningful is that information as jack smith tries to establish that trump knew what he was saying were lies in terms of election fraud? >> yeah, i think it's another brick in the wall of the evidence. you know, it's not the whole case, but prosecutors are going to have to show th...

Here, the corrupt intent is solid. and i suspect jack smith believes this. >> and laura, i'm so glad you brought up this podcast, because you have this interesting podcast where you sit down with celebrities and you talk to them about what we're talking about right now, what's playing out, the biggest legal issues that we're talking about. right now, you had one, he spoke to john mulaney, i want our audience to listen to that. >> we're kind of in this perpetual season of presidential investigations in impeachment. morrison v. olson brings out some interesting questions, some of which were stol...

Testify to the grand jury. what does that mean? >> well, it means, first of all, he is doing a pre grand jury interview. i can almost guarantee you, steph, that even though richard donahue maybe a friendly witness, not a hostile witness, somebody who has any loyalty to donald trump. the prosecutors would still want to lock in this testimony before the grand jury. and what testimony he has? he has one of the marquee statements that proves, i would argue conclusively, donald trump's corrupt intent. remember, we learned this specter in the january 6th select committee hearings. they were talking ...

Republican allies in congress. i'm sorry, steph, that is evidentiary goal to prosecutors, showing donald trump's corrupt intent. >> sam, a whole lot of money, almost $2 million and counting, it's going into protecting smith's team doesn't all of this go right back to donald trump's effort in law enforcement, that now we've got these doj people, and they are at risk, physically? >> yeah, i mean, this is that natural byproduct of the political calculation that jack smith has made, which is distrust, also chin of opposition vaguely threaten some sort of event will transpire if he is arrested as h...