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Corrupt intent? how important is it establishing that privately he knew he lost and was still trying to retain power? >> as a legal matter, it's not essential, in the sense that even if somehow he thought he won, you're still not allowed to churn out fake electors you're not allowed to pressure the vice president to incite a violent insurrection. t it is tremendously important for persuading the jury, and as you talked about earlier, persuading the american people that it is an appropriate prosecution. i think you can make the case without it, but it's a much stronger case if you have that evi...

Hi, laura. >> i'm surprised he forgot about that moment. because we are still wondering what the heck happened in helsinki. a lot has gone on since then. >> you think? how much time you got? kaitlan, thank you so much for a good evening, everyone. i am lara coates. did donald trump privately admit that he lost the election? tonight, we are running the special counsel that very question to his inner circle. trump setting a cappella with jared kushner, hope hicks, they have not testified before the grand jury. in jack smith's investigation to overturn the election. and by asking a question, it m...

Interpretation available of those terms. so it is a pretty good case made there, this qualifies as an insurrection. that is something that would have to be litigated. i think there are issues around proof of the then president's mental state. >> that is what i went to get to also, danya. we know that jared kushner has testified whether the president had corrupt intent, whether he knew he was lying around his claims that the election was stolen. other people have testified who are members of the inner circle in the trump administration. how much does it matter that the prosecutors can show he h...

In my view and that of my coauthors. >> dave, it reminds me of the bedminster tape. that the prosecution did not charge trump on. they did not charge him on dissemination. just having the tape of trump acknowledging the classified information was not his didn't follow, and potentially waving around classified documents in front of people without security clearance. in the court of public opinion, that meadows, right? that is the kind of evidence the public needs to understand just how wrong the behavior was. i wonder if it is sort of the same thing in terms of corrupt intent. is it to just exp...

The election was stolen. there are other people that have testified, members of the inner circle in the trump administration. how much does it matter that the prosecutors can show he had corrupt intent? >> as we analyzed in the prosecution memo, if the prosecutor brings a very narrow charge, in some way it matters not at all. if the prosecution can show that mr. trump was aware, for example, that the slate of electoral certificates that was submitted to congress was false, that could be enough in and of itself. if he knew that there was no legal authority whatsoever to put pressure on vice pre...