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People as we went along that when you are dealing with people who make discretionary decisions that were within their authority, it's very hard to prove corrupt intent. so, i -- you know, if there was a provable crime it would be brought. john durham felt he could not prove criminal intent in these cases. but the important thing is shining a light on what happened. >> bret: what do you think so comes out of that? i mean, is it up to capitol hill to dig into to force changes at the fbi? what comes out of this? >> well, i do think, you know, can follow up on this and make sure that appropriate c...

Official proceeding. that's against three of th alleged rioters, finding tha the question of corrupt intent applies only because the three defendants whose cases wer before the court were also charged with attacking police. they also those, charges right does this suggest that particular charge could no potentially be filed against donald trump >> it's actually a victory for the government, because so man of the january six cases relie upon 15 12 c, to the obstruction of an official proceeding statute and the court of appeals has now invalidated that charge. they will rule specificall that the...

90% of republicans said no the majority of american disagreed on both of those points so it is pence trying to hav his cake and eat it too. the important thing here i that this helps special counse jack smith what pence has been ordered to testify about his potentia illegal acts by donald trump you know, did trump pressure him with corrupt intent? that is the key legal phrase president chooses the next president, not the voters. the trump no, or should he hav known that that was fraudulent that it was not in pence's power? this is a big step forward because getting inside donal trump's head, w...

Crowd was armed, knew they were dangerous, and send us cassity testified that he did not care because they weren't there to hurt him. this is, i think the most powerful evidence of the president's knowledge, corrupt intent, and meadows could certainly corroborate that, undoubtedly there are other examples that he could give of the president state of mind. he is a key witness, it is an indication, lawrence, i think that we got to the presidents chief of staff and the vice president that finally this investigation is reaching the very top, and probably nearing its conclusion. >> mark meadows can...

Can't really have him swear to the affidavit. what do they do? they file an affidavit in federal court sworn to by donald trump. all one big lie. so i don't see how he gets around corrupt intent. corrupt intent is simply doing something with an improper purpose. clearly the improper purpose was to try to keep himself in power even though he lost the election. >> okay, smarty pants. do you want to retract your theory? >> i didn't say it was a good argument. i said it was an argument. i'm making an argument. >> and nick disspelled it. that was a real actual lesson in brilliance. thank you all ve...