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Fact, the president thought he had legitimately won. i still think if there are witnesses who will tell that, ultimately it'll not prevail as i said it's a naro case and doesn't require proof whether the election was or was not stolen. but also there's enough people telling him there was no proof it was. so that's more of an insanity plea than it is actually a good faith defense in my view and the view of my coauthors. >> you know what, david, it reminds me of the bedminster tape that prosecution did not charge trump on. they did not charge him on dissemination. but just having the tape of tru...

Transported from the white house to mar-a-lago. but what has he done is that he's handed prosecutors and gift time and again, by saying, you are darn right i knew it was in those boxes. i took them. they were mine. i have a right to them. of course he didn't. donald trump will convict donald trump at trial. >> neal, for those who are pointing and saying what about hillary clinton? what about what she did? i want to remind our audience that jim comey at the time said no prosecutor would have attempted to charge hillary clinton because they didn't have enough to prove intent, to prove motive. ho...

And then, they heard the tape, and that changed everything. do you agree that the state is everything? >> it is. i mean, the state, i think, should lead to a conviction on any counts that relate to what donald trump was discussing at that but mr. location. and i actually have found it hard to believe all along that folks continue to talk about how hard it is to prove either criminal intent generally, or donald trump's corrupt intent specifically. ordinarily we get to infer criminal intent from conduct, from statements of a defendant. and donald trump's his own worst enemy. donald trump will co...

Material. they cannot, however, cross the line from legal obstruction to illegal obstruction. now, that line is very vague. it talk about corrupt intent. and it's so easy for a partisan prosecutor to say that legitimate sixth, fourthth, fifth amendment defenses that are supposed to be raised by defendants have morphed into illegal obstruction of justice. . sounds to me like it may be another bragg indictment, another indictment that doesn't pass the shoe on the other foot test. that would never, never be directed against a political friend but only a political enemy. and it really endangers ou...

To make a motion to suppressss material. they cannot have the line from legal obstruction to illegalry obstruction. now, that line is very vague. tl it talks about corrupt intent. and it's so easy for a partisant prosecutor to say thator legitimate t fifth sixth fourth amendment defenses that are supposed to be raised by defendants have morphed intoj illegal obstruction of justice.e this sounds to me like it mayg be another bragg indictment, another indictment, that doesn't pass the shoe on the other foot, tests that would, nevernl never be directed against a political friend, but only aai pol...