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The issue is whether he abused his power. it's been fascinating to watch that. again, they're litigating this case in the court of public opinion. it's been striking. again and again you come to lots of different arguments. and i think their strategy is not really even that one as much as it just is to muddy the waters, confuse us, throw up a lot of different explanations. >> although what's in the president's head actually does matter because the allegation right now has come down to bribery which under any definition includes corrupt intent. and that is what's in the president's head. and i ...

Her and says can't the president dismiss the ambassador at his own will. she says yes, and she says aha, it exonerates the president. it doesn't because if the president is behaving with corrupt intent, it's impeachable.jordan says, but th aid was released, the doesn't release the corrupt scheme. when they say the president didn't -- when nunes says this about the whistleblower, in the end, i think we got an indication of what republicans will hand over to republican senators. wehurd, which is i don't see enough evidence to convict, which is different than saying it's wrong but not impeachable...

Stationed on different continents, yet there is a lot of similarity among their story. so, we came up with this chart. we're trying to help with all these names and all these different things that are being thrown at us in this. if you look along the left-hand column. those are all the people -- i'm not giving you all the titles because it's not relevant. they were all in the mix. across the top are the different kinds of things that matter. despite the histrionics in that room today, look at the last column, clears trump. nobody has come in and said i heard the call, i knew what was going on,...

Never even pretended to care about good governments. he harassed the mueller prosecution. he smeared you and everybody. who are we joking? how do we even with straight faces say the defense says he was after corruption? he doesn't care about krum corruption. he's more comfortable in corrupt enterprises. >> typically, the defense is he's ignorant. he didn't know. so when we look at the campaign finance violation, andrew, your team put him on notice that a thing of value, opposition research from a foreign government, counts as a violation of campaign law. mr. mueller said he wasn't sure he coul...

Is there corrupt attempt by the quid pro quo. and you've done a good job of educating your viewers of what is it? it's this for that. the only way you can know if there was corrupt intent is to say what was going on for the bidens. you and i agree it sounds bad. >> it's not the bidens. it's what was going on with the president. >> let's figure this out. >> put on pompeo, put on mulvaney, put on bolton and then we'll know. >> no, no, no. i hate to go to process -- >> you hate it. you love it. make your argument. >> he should have -- you said the process. he should have gone to the doj. he shoul...