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Long standing concerns about corruption in ukraine, correct? >> i don't -- i don't recall, but there are concerns. there are broad concerns about corruption, yes. >> but you would agree that if the u.s. is giving, you know, hundreds of millions of dollars to a foreign nation that has a corruption problem, that's certainly something that the u.s. government officials and the president would want to be concerned about? >> yes. and if a foreign country has a problem with oligarchs taking money, taking u.s. taxpayer dollars, that's something that the president ought to be concerned about in advanc...

Easily ambassador to the e.u., already changed his testimony once, amended it based on his memory was refreshed, read some other testimony and said that he needed to do that before he came. how do you think he will hold up as a witness on wednesday? >> we will see. what we know is what he said in his deposition, and that really did not change in the event he provided to his deposition testimony. he said there was no quid pro quo and that he should do the right thing, and the right thing is deal with the huge corruption problem that has been part of ukraine for the longest time. 1 of the three ...

>> i would say corruption is a serious issue everywhere in the former soviet union. it is a post-soviet legacy, and we talk about it a lot in ukraine because there is actually an opportunity to do something. to help the ukrainians tackle the issue. they want to tackle the issue. in other countries like russia, you can't even talk about it. so i think it is a post-soviet legacy and it's important to do with it. >> you testified rampant corruption has long permeated ukraine's political and economic systems? >> yes, that's a fair statement. >> and is your belief that you don't like it should be t...

Is a serious issue everywhere in the former soviet union. it's a post-soviet legacy. and we talk about it a lot in ukraine because there is actually an opportunity to do something, to actually help the ukrainians tackle the issue. they want to tackle the issue. in other countries, like russia, you can't even talk about it. so i think it's a post-soviet legacy and it's important to deal with it. >> and you testified rampant corruption has long permeated ukraine's political and economic systems? >> yes, that's a fair statement. >> and it's your belief that it should be the u.s. foreign policy to...

Concern that ukraine has a lot of corruption. other criminal justice system is poor right now. that's setting the foundation, a very key foundation for any argument that the president is accurate when he has concern over corruption. >> dana: when you read through this testimony, and i appreciate you doing that because i have got to page 80 but it's an interesting exchange. it's kind of like an open secret that ukraine has i corruption problem. but when you thing about these public hearings that will happen next week, this is not a criminal investigation. you are a u.s. attorney, he worked as a...