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Spoke to governor hutchinson. >> there still seems to be a cost shift to the states but we have to look beyond medicaid dollars and that's the mistake that everybody is making right now. >> they stand to lose millions of dollars in medicaid money. richard? >> alex, very key meeting happening over there. thank you so much. there in rhode island. joining us now, what do you make of the cruz version of the bill? >> unfortunately, we're on trumpcare 3.0 and it's gotten no better. it's gotten worse.

Are calling the plan unworkable in any form. president trump still sounding optimistic in the weekly address. fake a listen. >> it's a common sense approach that restores the sacred doctor/patient relationship. you're going to finally have great health care at a lower price. >> this weekend, top trump officials including vice president mike pence mick mulvaney and health and human services secretary tom price. they are trying to garner support at the national governor association gathering. >> i'm not there yet. you know they have resolved about three issues i was concerned with. but they're s...

Are uninsured and that's a problem. >> one frequent criticism is that this bill contains large tax cuts for wealthy investors. do you think we should keep those taxes in place, if it means more to help the most vulnerable in states like yours? >> well, that's the cost and where you come up with the revenues is a senate question. i'm delighted -- >> what is your position on this? do you think we should keep those taxes in place for the wealthiest americans? the wealthy investors? >> i know that's under consideration by the senate. they're debating that point. >> what would you tell your senator...

The medicaid provisions, i think, are still -- well, in some cases they're a little better than the house bill, in others a little harsher. it doesn't provide a soft enough landing, in my view, to the state. still too much of a cost shift particularly for expansion states like mine. >> and we talk about the issues, the cbo score is expected out tomorrow with a vote to come, so a lot of people will be reviewing and making those changes, but as you say, the prediction is it will come pretty much around where the house version did. people will lose their medicaid. these are pregnant women, the el...

But for republicans this is really about a bet. a bet that if they rush this through as quickly as possible people won't get to the bottom of how truly evil this bill is. they know this is an embarrassing product. they know this is going to hurt millions of americans and they hope that if they rush this thing through people won't have the time to figure it out. but they will. they already have. they know that this is a big -- bill that is essentially a cost shift from all of those people that you just showed, the disabled, the poor, middle class americans who have gotten insurance through the ...