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Stuff day-to-day it's confusing. for the great mass that doesn't follow it in detail day-to-day, it gets very confusing and as i say, i think the purpose there is to trivialized concerns. >> put aside for a moment the question of whether he is serving fine as well with the shifting explanations. how much interest would it be from an intelligence perspective whether or not candidate trump was having these moscow tower conversations or people representing him were having these moscow tower conversations all through the 2016 campaign. >> potential great implications from a counter intelligence pe...

Was having the tower conversations or people representing him having the conversations throughout the 2016 campaign is this it has potentially great implications from a counter intelligence perspective. if there was in fact a financial interest or hope for it financial interest, that could potentially have serious counter intelligence and national security implications. certainly contempt rainously. in the last administration were not aware of the extent of what is now apparently emerging about just how extensive and how long this dialogue business dialogue went on with the russians. >> if the...

>> seems like -- >> sent this polling data over the russians is clearly disturbing, and i'm giving a legal analysis to this. and robby, you're making political statements. and i get that. that's what you do. >> here's what's odd -- here's what's odd from a counterintelligence perspective. if we were to take rudy giuliani at his word that the president didn't know anything about what paul manafort was doing, the reaction after the fact to that information being revealed publicly has been sort of odd, because the reaction hasn't been boy, i would have never wanted my campaign chairman to be coor...

Counterintelligence perspective. if we were to take rudy giuliani at his word that the president didn't know anything about what paul manafort was doing, the reaction after the fact to that information being revealed publicly has been sort of odd, because the reaction hasn't been boy, i would have never wanted my campaign chairman to be coordinating or to be providing information about my campaign. >> yeah. >> to a foreign power that has adversarial interests to the united states of america. so that reaction is odd. it's clear that rudy giuliani is trying to limit the scope of what people thin...

>> dana: president trump blast ago "new york times" report that the fbi has been investigating whether he's secretly working for russia, calling for evidence that he may be compromised a hoax. the white house slamming a report that the president tried to conceal details of his one-on-one talks with russian president vladimir putin. the interpreter that was translating between the two leaders may be forced to testify before a congressional panel. can that happen? let's bring in justice department prosecutor, james trusty. let's start with "the new york times" story. said the fbi was looking fro...