>> we need to have the resolve to stand up against that. does russia really want to go to war with nato countries? where we outnumber them 4-1 on ground forces. and they are already bogged down in ukraine. is that really what's on the agenda? i think we can stand up to these rhetorical threats. >> and you and i have talked about covert ops. if potencies in the event is warned, rebeccah come i come to you as a strategist and diplomacy. whatever putin says i guess goes now. even though none of that would be from what generals are telling me what you do covertly so on and so forth giving old plan...