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Emerge bloody and battered, there were graphics, it's politics over personality and by that standard, and i said this the week before, it was always going to be a bust. >> yeah, i mean, look, people, a lot of folks in the news media they hated him, they all voted against him for the most part. the they were rooting hard for him to lose. but they miss president trump because there was drama with him, for good and for bad. right. and the world war iii comment from clarence, with all respect, i don't think president trump moved us anywhere at all close to another world war. there were peace deals...

Could say more normal, more traditional. that's fine. but the hype machine is not going to work with a politician like joe biden and rather than doing comparisons, trump versus biden on style, it should be as i mentioned in my previous answer on substance and results. howie: the next day the new york times had a headline praising biden for his stubborn optimism and the washington post praised him for his strategy of pessimism. that clears that up, clarence. i don't know. it didn't seem to matter that the president and his own people were tamping down expectations. tv wanted drama. it was almos...

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And censored people who just articulated an intuitive completely plausible theory that has been viable all along. so for jon stewart to come out and say what he said, where he said it, on colbert's show on cbs, making his friend uncomfortable, enraging online leftist, it was significant because he was pointing out and puncturing the absurdity of the previous conventional wisdom and consensus, that it's a conspiracy theory, when for the reasons he pointed out it makes a lot of sense on its face. we need to get to the bottom of it. we need the actual facts, i hope will eventually come out. but t...

The efforts failed. >> my thought is jeffrey rosen comes out looking like a rock star. he held his ground. i don't think a lot of folks are surprised that president trump wanted to do everything possible to try to hold onto his job as president of the united states. he felt like he should be entitled to another term in office. my sense is, it is a big story to a certain degree, a lot of our colleagues in the mainstream media love having president trump's name out there. it's good for business. but i think a big aspect of whether it's going to be a huge story or not is whether he decides to run...