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Susan collins. to the congressman's point, there are a number of people who are probably teetering right on that edge of saying, look, let's pass this spending resolution that we've had that there's been support for in the past, separate the border security issue, but really the other issue that the leaders are dealing with is the president and frankly, not wanting to put his members in the conference cross wise with the president. it's more than just saying is the president going to veto the bill or not. it's also this issue of not wanting his members to have to take votes that are going to p...

Using chemical weapons because we had troops on the ground. the force were there and he didn't want to get cross wise with us. working with the regime may protect them. they work with the regime before in other parts of syria in a region, but i don't think they are fooled in thinking that. they are not a guarantor of anyone. >> let's talk about what this means for the region and i guess more globally. we are waiting for lindsey graham who is a powerful force on capitol hill and has been an ally on a lot of issues and very outspoken and this is a nightmare for turkey and iran saying this is exa...

Out there in public speaking. that it is all reserved for the president. so mattis over the last two years had had a strategy. you don't see him on camera holding press conferences. he would come talk off camera to reporters. you don't see him out there that much. he's very measured. he tried very hard never to get crosswise with the president because of president trump's sensitivities. at the same time, he made it very clear he didn't see his job as saving president trump. he saw his job as supporting the u.s. troops out in the field risking their lives. and he will be concerned tonight that ...

Mean something. >> in the past, working in the white house, when we have gotten cross wise with the president and just a lot of anger, i've been involved in a session when we call in publishers or editors, called in the presidents of the various news organizations, and have a real conversation with the president and his people about how can we live better together and treat each other as professionals? i keep thinking, should we do that here? and then it occurs to me, he won't listen. i don't think he's willing to go down that path. >> i don't think he sees it in that, i know he doesn't see it...

In the same week that khashoggi was dismembered and killed, a reporter, by a foreign power that is authoritarian, and even less than trump has no regard for a free press. but the free press, as all of our presidents have recognized. yes, they have gotten really angry at the press. and look, we make mistakes. and usually, we own up to them. but this is something different. this is saying that the poison in our system is the press. it's not. the poison in our system, the toxicity in our system, is the current president of the united states, and his words, and they mean something. >> in the past,...