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Years. it's not returning in five months. there's no evidence of that. look at who gets attention to this day. it's tucker, it's ben shapiro, mike pence, it's donald trump. none of those figures have -- are getting the money, are getting the recognition, are getting the following. and those things are essential ingredients if you want to win in national politics. the party does not care fundamentally about deficits. i don't even know that the vast majority of what you would call the base of the party right now cares that much about ideology. it's much more an identity statement. a culture stat...

Roads. her theme is build the damn roads. she can do that, and trump can't stop this progress in the states. this is the place that america can make progress, state by state. and we can't be retarded. and the third reason, we can be a check on the president as well. on the muslim ban, on his action to try to cut our funding for law enforcement, we can check that in court and otherwise. so. >> some cultural things also. you governors obviously have tremendous sway within your states if roe v. wade does come up, if the conservatives do get what they want, which is a repealing or a mitigation the...

Make progress state by state. we can be a check on the president as well. on the muslim ban, on his action to try to cut the funding for law enforcement, we can check that in court and otherwise. >> some cultural things also. you governors have tremendous sway within your states. if roe v. wade does come up, if conservatives get what they want which is repealing, it falls to state. each state will make their own real culture statement about what is going to be allowed. >> you can't count on the supreme court under the current conditions to protect your right to a woman's right of choice. my st...