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People and further extend protection for deferral of deportation for their parents. >> so cynthia, take us to january 20, 2021. what does that process actually look like? >> well, first, we have to get through the supreme court ruling and what's interesting about -- what's happening there is that they can rule on a very narrow grounds. because the trump administration is making the argument that the supreme court is not even allowed to decide if they can strike daca. they're saying as a matter of law legally it was illegal to start, so now the supreme court cannot even review it. well, what mi...

Angry democratic voters and immigration advocates to campaign even more aggressively against the president. if the court prevents mr. trump from ending daca, that could fire up his base of voters. how do you see that playing out? do you think that's a likely outcome? >> oh, sure. certainly. i think the supreme court will invalidate daca and actually give donald trump discretion for what direction he wants to go in and politically, ultimately voters make their decision based on the contrast between two candidates. what it comes down to is how wide is that contrast and which candidate best refle...

Necessarily are going to have an up or down on daca by the time there's the next president. we'll have an up and down on marburger versus madison, and the trump justice department is at battle with this. >> we have heard a number of civil rights groups calling on congress, how likely is that, chris? >> well, i think it's really not likely during this administration. but i think what's important to understand with daca we don't need the supreme court to make a decision on this. earlier this month the house of representatives passed a bill that would provide legal protection to these young peopl...

Know, some time after july 4th. >> so, glen, he previously called off a round of ice raids this week. what is his strategy here? >> you know, there really is no strategy. there is no coherent policy that this administration has to deal with immigrants and with the crisis that we're seeing presently. the only way you can sum up, i think, the administration's approach to immigration is they are anti-immigrant. whether it is revoking the daca status, deferred action for childhood arrivals, so-called dreamers. the president tried to revoke that. the courts put a stop to it. of course we'll now see...

>> well what it means is that the majority of the cases the supreme court looks at aren't generally that ideological. we obviously focus on big ones like the census decision or gerrymandering. but the other ones i think don't fall that cleanly but with daca there's a broader issue about the limits of presidential authority. and as we saw last year this supreme court gave president trump the authority to implement his muslim ban. given his authority over national security. what will be interesting to see here is whether they give that same level of deference to president obama and how the immig...