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is money. would you ever allow a shutdown in the future? >> a shutdowns in terms of covid? i let the governors make their decisions, some of them from south carolina, you know and frankly, north dakota a few of them tennessee, they didn't shut down at all. florida did shut down, ron desantis shut down, or ron desanctimonious as he is known. he shut his state down, very violently down. he shut the highways down. >> donald trump criticizing ron dissents for his response to the covid-19 pandemic at a town hall last night at iowa, it aired on fox news. that happened not too far where des...

with former secretary of state hillary clinton who joined us to talk about the 2024 election and the threat that her 2016 opponent, donald trump, poses to the future of american democracy. how do people manage, especially people who really love this democracy, who take it seriously, who take the words you just said on our show very seriously, that you can't just sit back and let democracy come to you, that this is, every day, something we all must work on together, what do you say when people ask you about the former president, these trials, these delays, and the fear that they fee...

Yesterday at the white house for an exclusive one-on-one interview. we discuss the state of president joe biden's reelection campaign, her priorities as first lady, and the attacks against hunter biden and her family. >> you've been married to president joe biden for 46 years. they have been senate races, three presidential campaigns, eight years of your husband serving as vice president. unthinkable personal loss and challenge, and now democracy is on the ballot. what do you think when you hear people say that, i just can't vote for joe biden this election. what is it that they may not know a...