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>> no, i understand that. but listen, i've listened to our legal -- we don't need to debate mueller. all i'm trying to tell you is that's behind us, and i'm glad that the democrats are focusing on this case of abuse of power. they didn't go beyond that much in the obstruction of congress and all that stuff, but what i'm saying to you is i think they've taken a more responsible, constructive approach to doing it this way, and i'm glad that they did that. and they didn't go off in other kinds of degrees. i think it gives them more credibility. but it doesn't matter because the republicans are go...

Our legal -- we don't need to debate mueller. all i'm trying to tell you is that's behind us, and i'm glad that the democrats are focusing on this case of abuse of power. they didn't go beyond that much in the obstruction of congress and all that stuff, but what i'm saying to you is i think they've taken a more responsible, constructive approach to doing it this way, and i'm glad that they did that. and they didn't go off in other kinds of degrees. i think it gives them more credibility. but it doesn't matter because the republicans are going to say, this is not the case. the democrats are goi...

Don't have to do with indicting donald trump. >> certainly, ali. and thank you for having me. >> my pleasure. >> debate mueller can certainly fore subpoenaing the president and instead issue a report to congress with his finding. he may go that route. i would suggest that i would never frpz to tell bob mueller what to do. he was my chief of homicide years ago. and i became chief of homicide after he left the u.s. attorney's office for the district of columbia. and i had the pleasure of learning from one of the best. but it might makense, quite frankly, for both the investigation and for the co...