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among other things, mike pence's novel -- to put it kindly -- novel notion about why he should not have to testify before a grand jury. >> novel is one way of putting it, lawrence. i can't wait to see. it >> thanks, alex. >> thank you. >> well the breaking news of the night is that special prosecutor jeff jack smith has invoked the crime fraud exception in a motion to force one of donald trump's lawyers to testify before a grand jury without being able to refuse to answer questions because of the attorney client privilege. the crime fraud exception can overrule the attorney client...

Columbia university. he is the author of the declassification engine, wiped history reveals about america's top secrets. thank you very much for joining us tonight professor, and thank you very much for picking up the daniel patrick moynahan work and carrying it forward, as someone i am sure will be doing after you, long after you, since the progress is basically nonexistent. what are our oldest secrets, the oldest secrets that the government is currently still holding as top secret that none of us can know? >> after the cia declassified recipes for invisible ink that were over 100 years old, ...