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This is about. the president is banking on a strategy to say if you look at the transcript, when you read the transcript, you can see i didn't do anything wrong. a, that's not true and, b, he knows most people won't read the transcript. even though it's only nine pages long and out there for everyone to access, it's a deflection strategy by the president. he does wanting to be out there on offense and he could make an address to the nation, give a primetime speech in that way. i don't see him actually following through on that suggestion. right now the strategy is a pretty -- a strategy of wea...

He's pushing ukraine to investigate biden. take a listen. >> the conversation i had was largelily congratulatory, was largely corruption, all the corruption taking place, was largely the fact that we don't want our people like vice president skbooind -- biden and his son. >> i've seen marco rubio, down the line republicans and trump tv and right-wing media, they are intent to make this a story about the other side. >> yeah, it's the classic deflection strategy. what they hope is by throwing on enough smoke that people will just say everyone's sort of just the same, right? yet what we know is t...

About the other side. >> yeah, it's the classic deflection strategy. what they hope is by throwing on enough smoke that people will just say everyone's sort of just the same, right? yet what we know is that everyone's not the same. everyone who's looked at the biden thing and looked at it in a nonpartisan way has come away saying there's no there there. there clearly is a there to the president of the united states trying to use the power of his office to help his own re-election campaign in concert with a foreign government. >> one of the reasons there's a there, barbara, is this reminds me o...

Accusing ted cruz's father of being involved in the assassination of jfk in the heat of the republican primary when ted cruz was his only opponent. now we see the clintons sort of act as a forever foil for him. they've been the targets of right-wing conspiracies for decades, and it's something that it almost seems in this case like he can't resist. >> and i thought that your quote from doug brinkley, the presidential historian, was fantastic. he believes this is a deflection strategy, right? he says, quote, the first thing trump wanted to do was put bill clinton into the mix. he added make it ...

And abc, he's pointing out other people are offensive too. sarah huckabee sanders at the podium said that the white house did not support her comments but she also came prepared with a whole litany of comments that other folks had made against the president. it's a deflection strategy by the white house on these comments. the president -- you're not going to see him condemn her. i just don't think it's going to happen. >> mary katherine, point of fact here, abc did apologize. maybe bob iger didn't pick up the phone and call the president but let me remind you, within 24 hours of that brian ros...