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Care. in our original proposal before the government shutdown we had actually said listen, let's treat american families, individuals, the same way we are treating big businesses in regard to beings as it. listen, you are right, that is an internal issue that we are having. >> that's a big one though. that's huge. if you can't even get all republicans to agree, we do nothing send over to the senate. >> pizzas are coming in. we are not giving up. what's key, greta, we have the administration not wanting to go into obama care. so for conservatives out there, if you want to actually get movement ...

To 20 to 25 members of congress, who are going to be driven by heritage action's pronouncement on this, we are going to end up being in a place where we have a bill that is voted on by a majority of democrats and probably a majority of republicans and passes the house and is satisfactory to what -- it's not going to be anything close to what republicans would get today. we cannot let the government go into default. frankly, you know, you mentioned may. may was when we actually ran up against the debt ceiling. government has been using extraordinary measures since then. and runs out of those es...

Right. >> yes. >> but the problem that you have you think there will be a bigger battle when it gets to the senate if it gets there the problem is you can't get it to the senate because they are having some feud at least pressure from the heritage action so you can't get enough votes to put that package together with vittert over to the senate. >> listen, we are having a little family discussion. >> family problem. dysfunction. >> hoping that we can come back together and get a package out. which is going to include the president in this healthcare reform bill. i think in the long run, if we c...

Came out and said that it doesn't do anything to obama care and it put a lot of heat on the republicans in the house; is that right? >> that may be true in part. a lot of people i talked to were supportive. quite frankly our amendment causes people not to support it members are going to have to pay more. there are members on our sidenned at democratic side who don't like that. i think it's helpful in terms of the fight against obama care. if you have a statute that imposes burdens on society and then politically connected can get delays, waivers, or what have you, then, it makes it more diffic...

Ceiling problem was going to roll around in mid october. enough to they have made this mess. apparently what stopped any sort of progress tonight is heritage action, which is a conservative group, who apparently sent some memo around that to republicans in the house saying it doesn't do anything to obama care. and that suddenly was putting, you know, a stink bomb into any possible vote tonight. so, yes, it is a real mess with you it's a very painful one. >> look, it doesn't do much to obama care. it does something. it removes that congressional waiver which is a big thing for the american peop...