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about the president's counsel, the vice president's counsel. they all told him it was un-american. in the words of a prosecutor, illegal. even the nation's top prosecutor, the attorney general bill barr, found no evidence to support a play to stay in office. and tonight we have not one but two former attorneys general here both nominated by republican president. and both are going to give us their take on whether the emperor's wardrobe might be traded for prison garb. the former attorney general merrick garland says he is watching closely. but i wonder what his predecessors would thi...

between the president and the vice president, is that correct? >> yes. >> when i entered the office the second time he was on the telephone with who i later out to found out to be the vice president. >> could you hear the vice president or only hear the president's end? >> only hear the president's end. at some point it started off as a calmer tone and became heated. >> the conversation was pretty heated. >> did you hear any part of the phone call even just the end that the president was speaking from? >> i did, yes. >> all right. what did you hear? >> as i was dropping off the note,...

the january 6th committee presents new evidence as it tries to connect the capitol insurrection to trump's pressure campaign against his vice president. witnesses testifying trump knew the plan was illegal, but he went ahead with it anyway. there is so much to discuss with our senior political analyst, but first we want to get you to manu raju with the latest. >> mike pence has betrayed america! >> reporter: the pressure campaign was relentless. donald trump for months trying to get mike pence to do something no vice president has ever done, reject the will of the electorate and inst...

>> then, you said at some point, there was a telephone conversation between the president and the vice president? is that correct? >> yes. >> when i entered the office, the second time, he was on the phone with who i later found out to be the vice president. >> did you hear the vice president, or only hear the president's end? >> only hear the president's end. it was a calmer tone and then became heated. >> the conversation was pretty heated. >> did you hear any part of the phone call? like the end of the president. >> as i was drops off the note, i remember hearing the word wimp. e ...

about mike pence, that served to whip up the crowd. one of the rioters read it aloud. watch this. >> you just heard that mike pence is not going to reject any fraudulent elector votes! >> you're a traitor! >> that's right. you heard it here first. mike pence has betrayed the united states of america! [ bleep ] you, mike pence. >> it was clear it was escalating and escalating quickly. >> hang mike pence. hang mike pence. >> so when that tweet, mike pence tweet, was sent out, i remember us saying that that was the last thing that needed to be tweeted at that moment. the situation was a...