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Sign that we're not going to stand up to him. >> is there a devil's advocate argument on nato, though, here? for years, as you know, going back to your service in government, there have been questions about what is nato's mission today, following the collapse of the soviet union. you do have nato allies, largely on the same page here, saying this shall not stand. perhaps not in your view deterring enough, but they're on the same page about this, they're moving forces east. it at least reaffirms that perhaps you need nato today, more than five, ten, 20 years ago. is there a positive message fro...

Terrible order of police, thank you for taking the time. the president's visit as well as the latest news, the reversal by d.a. bragg that he'll prosecute gun possession and armed robbery. >> well, you know, i'm certainly happy that president biden is acknowledging the historic crime increases and they want to fund the police department. because on the campaign trail he said he wanted to divert the funds away and vp harris also gave to a group with looters and rioters. and life comes at you pretty fast in the washington beltway, folks. what we really want to hear from president biden and from ...

Remedy. there has to be something in between so actually tell people you cannot behave this way. it will motivate others to behave better. so rowdy, i think, is just an easy way out for these republicans to not support it. >> i hear you on that point, the idea of defining it. scott, i want to invite you into the conversation because the first thought -- and i'm playing devil's advocate here. the first thought is, well, how are maybe passengers or flight marshals to determine whether this is a passenger who is the word unruly or somebody who could pose a threat to embolden others to use a prete...

Captain ron, it's good to see you. thank you for joining us on this. we don't know -- the investigation is still going on here, but the alleged shooter is being charged with attempting to cause bodily injury with a firearm and a deadly weapon by shooting the vehicle with gibson inside. the accusation is one guy shooting into a car, another trying to drive him off the road. what are these things -- what do you think of these charges? >> well, it's -- it's definitely beyond attempting to harm. i think there's got to be some charges that would better fit this. surely i'm not familiar with the law...

Nick, good evening to you. you spoke with gibson today. what did he tell you about what happened? >> reporter: well, don, he's upset. he's upset about what happened. he's upset also he says that the way police initially handled what he had to tell them, saying they were skeptical of his story going so far as to play devil's advocate, asking him if he'd done anything suspicious. and also upset at fedex, saying they put him on the very same route that day after the shooting. he's since taken a leave of absence but says he hasn't heard from fedex in over a week. they offered to pay for counsellin...