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We can define it, that was disruptive, then you cannot fly on any airplane because the only remedy we have now is one airline takes them off their list or a criminal remedy. there has to be something in between to actually tell people you cannot behave this way. it will motivate others to behave better. so, rowdy, i think, is just an easy way out for these republicans to -- >> well, juliet, i hear you. on that point, you know, the idea of defining it. that sticks in my mind. scott, i want to hear about the conversation. the first thought -- and i'm playing devil's advocate here. the first thou...

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Something that you want to be avoiding. so how do you get people back to function in society not with a zero risk, but with a marketedly diminished risk? that is the basis for that decision on the part of the cdc. >> so two really important follow-up questions. one, i want to ask you this devil's advocate question is basically the delta ceo was asking the cdc to reduce the isolation period from ten days to five days and shortly there after that was the announcement and this notion that, like, basically you want to shove people back to work because that's what bosses want and science and risk b...

I don't disagree with them at all -- that wearing a mask is ample protection during that second half of a ten-day period. when you balance that against the importance of trying to get people back functioning in society or the alternative is something no one wants and that's to shutdown completely. and we know that's not going to be palatable to the american public and that's something you want to be avoiding. how do you get people back to a functioning society not with a zero risk but with a remarkably lower risk. >> one, i want to ask you this devil's advocate question basically there was a h...