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before me. just because of my interest in historical preservation. so just -- and then i think things just sort of presented themselves. obviously women's rights and women's issues became very important as everyone in the world really turned to look at afghanistan. and saw how women were treated there. and i think american women were really horrified. the idea of a government that would forbid half of their population from being educated was really shocking to us and i noticed, i could tell, american women really felt very strong sense of sisterhood with women in afghanistan and want...

>> i wake up very early. i woke up at 6:00 this morning. >> and wake up lively? did you wake up lively? >> i don't talk to anybody. no, i wake up, put the dogs out, get the coffee, pick up the paper. but in those days, i really woke up pretty lively, and i just learned how to use a computer, and i -- i wrote a diary and actually jon meacham has been given permission only, because they're not to be open for 50 years because i'm pretty naughty. frank. >> frank is a good one. >> who would guess? >> not to my precious daughter-in-law. anyway, i wrote a diary, and he is allowed to read pa...

decided i should do something that helps the most people and cost the government less money. i didn't want to be controversial. i got problems with that anyway. i wanted to keep it down. it comes naturally. but i picked literacy, because there is no question in my mind and now i've gone into family literacy, because if you have a mother or father or caretaker who can ride, read, they can follow their child in school and help them. if they can't, then the child doesn't have any inspiration. statistics in our country are shocking. the number of children who do not graduate from high sc...

the dogs were born there, and you could look out the window at jackson place and the -- what's that park? >> lafayette square. >> lafayette square and see all sorts of wonderful things. nobody else faced that part of washington, but i saw more people protesting us and some people who loved us, and i saw people at weddings. they would back up and have a wedding picture taken. i saw my first black bridesmaids dresses backing up to have their pictures taken by the white house. i mean their dresses were black, which i thought was amazing. but it was -- i loved looking out at the people. ...