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You didn't build, that you didn't discover is yours, then certainly this is inevitable. this is an inevitable way of speaking. so from your ending do you think that there's any chance that these never trumpers recognizes that and changing that and saying oh, our bad, we didn't know how awful we were before. >> well, look, that's a discussion we can have. rather than describe them as never trumpers, i think you should describe liz cheney and adam kinzinger as pro democracy and willing to stake a stand. i like what you did there with the split screen because you're seeing the two faces of the re...

Kennedy line, the torch is passed to a new generation. you want somebody who has a clear contrast with trump in all kinds of ways, including youth and vitality. >> does that just mean a younger candidate, or a candidate that's not a man or a candidate that's not a white man? >> or it could be mike bloomberg, who's a real billionaire. >> we'll see. >> i just want to say, i agree with rick. i think there's something we forget. yes, hillary clinton won the popular vote last time, clearly not the electoral vote, but there were a lot of people who stayed home, who we could just inspire and get new ...

Still here. drain the swamp was a campaign promise. is this what happens when you put a new york state developer in charge? >> it was almost as laughable as getting mexico to pay for the wall. we should be discriminating. patrick shanahan was a terrific executive at boeing. he turned the 787 program around. never intended to be the secretary of defense. that happened because jim mattis chose to resign. alex aczar at health and human services has a long record in government. he was deputy of the department, 10 or 15 years ago. so we should be careful about who we're calling -- who we're calling...

He says. he has to talk to his family, which i'm sure he did during the holiday. and he'll make his decision. and his family is very important to him. >> should he run? >> yes. he brings graf as the, experience, normalcy and decency to the white house and he restores it for the united states. >> what i would say is, he really wants to run, he's a great guy, we all know that. what i worry about is whether we're fighting the last war, if democrats are fighting the last war, nominating an older candidate who says, well, he'll get those voters in michigan and wisconsin and pennsylvania that hillar...