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Tricky when something can be true and untrue at the same time, and yet both aspects of it matter, right? we're going to explain right now. here's your premise. collusion does not equal a crime. here's what rudy giuliani, lawyer to president trump, said to cnn. >> which i don't even know if that's a crime, colluding about russians. you start analyzing the crime. the hacking is the crime. the hacking is the crime. >> that certainly is the original crime. >> the president didn't hack. >> of course not. >> he didn't pay them for hacking. >> collusion is not a crime. rudy's right. collusion is not ...

Tricky when something can be true and untrue at the same time, and yet both aspects of it matter, right? we're going to explain right now. here's your premise. collusion does not equal a crime. here's what rudy giuliani, lawyer to president trump, said to cnn. >> which i don't even know if that's a crime, colluding about russians. you start analyzing the crime. the hacking is the crime. the hacking is the crime. >> that certainly is the original crime. >> the president didn't hack. >> of course not. >> he didn't pay them for hacking. >> collusion is not a crime. rudy's right. collusion is not ...

Attempts to sort this all out, giuliani's media blitz only added to the confusion. he tried to defend his client but left some in fact white house wondering what exactly he was trying to accomplish. >> reporter: a white house official distancing the president's press team from his outside lawyer rudy giuliani. telling cnn, they are not coordinating after giuliani's aggressive and confusing media blitz. since the start of the investigation into potential coordination between the trump campaign and russia to interfere in the 2016 election, the message from the president's team has been the same ...

Counsel robert mueller should trust michael cohen or anything related to his former lawyer and fixer at all. >> has the white house had any response to the claims from giuliani this morning on television, i mean, it's not being -- his statements are not being coordinated with the white house, are they? >> no, they're not. and the white house has made that pretty clear ever since the president first hired rudy giuliani to be his lawyer. his statements have been increasingly problematic for the white house spokespeople because of course rudy giuliani will say something on television that contrad...

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