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Get under his skin that his own running mate is not defending him. Im curious the kind of mood in trump world right now. You know, i have not heard that theyre upset by governor pences performance in any way or that theyre worried that he might have upstaged donald trump. There was a lot of pushback to that reporting from the campaign. But what i can tell you was that before they were deciding on who was going to be Donald Trumps running mate, there was some concern about choosing somebody who would upstage donald trump, somebody like Newt Gingrich or Chris Christie who is more of a politician...

Parties, disruptive globalization, populist nagsablism and the end of party work. how they do it will be central to their future. >> i think that trump has shown that faith voters are not the faith voters we thought they were. >> right. >> you know, that faith, religiosity, social issues as they are normally constructed are not necessarily any more the main drivers of politics in that part of that party. they have the same appetite on immigration, on populism and frankly on rage politics as the peer trumpista. you can't go back to that old model anymore. >> i remember in 2004 when the whole id...

>> -- took this -- >> by that you mean social -- >> social conservatism. if you think what has roiled this election year, it has been populism, economic issues, the class divisions within parties, it has been economic insecurity and not the social issues which so animated the republican party. so we can talk all we want about preparation and this and that. last night we did see an extremist give really extremist positions a reassuring face. but the big issues facing i think this country and both parties, disruptive globalization, populist nagsablism and the end of party work. how they do it wi...