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can be counted on and believed by the american people, at reforms that create better transparency, at reforms that don't allow fisa judges to be misled by people with an agenda, that you will be able to at least give us some of the guidance from your decades of knowing how it is done right at the department of justice and mr. chairman, i want to thank you for your indulgence. i will not take excess time. i believe this witness 300 pages speaks very well for itself and i yield back. >> the gentleman was california is recognized. >> just so people remember what this is all about let me ask you the mueller investigation revealed that russia interfered in the 2016 election in sweeping and systemic fashion, correct? >> that's correct. >> russia did so through a social media campaign that favored donald trump and disparaged hillary clinton, correct? >> that's what the report says, yes. >> mueller found that a russian intelligence service hacked

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he know charles dolan. you listen to the recording. he hesitates for an awkward period of time and said yes, he acknowledged knowing mr. dolan. >> do you think he had anything to do he was worried with disclosing a democrat operative as a sub source might jeopardize the whole payroll deal the f.b.i. set up with him? >> we lay these facts out as we do other facts in the report and leave it to others to draw reasonable conclusions or inferences from those facts. >> of the hundreds of individuals who the f.b.i. interviewed through the course of crossfire hurricane and mueller's investigation, this came up earlier, was charles dolan ever interviewed by the f.b.i.? >> he was not. >> do you have any insight as to why the f.b.i. would not interview him or overlook such a high-profile person in this

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data, correct? >> that's what i have read in the news, yes. >> that manafort provided this information to russian intelligence while they were engaged in the social media campaign and release of stolen documents to help the trump campaign, correct? >> you may be getting beyond the depth of my knowledge. >> let me say simply while manafort, the campaign chairman for donald trump was giving this russian intelligence officer internal campaign polling data, russian intelligence was helping the trump campaign, weren't they? zblool fe >> i don't know that. >> you don't know those basic facts of the investigation. >> i know the general facts, yes. do i know that particular fact myself no. i have read in the media. >> are you aware that mueller and investigations are were told trump junior was offered high

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computers associated with clinton campaign and released the stolen documents publicly. >> the report speaks for itself as well. >> mueller also report evidence that though he could not establish the crime of conspiracy beyond a reasonable doubt he said, quote, a statement that the investigation did not establish certain facts does not mean there was no evidence of those facts. that also appears in the report, doesn't it? >> there is language to that effect. >> you cited that in your own report as a way of distinguishing between proof beyond a reasonable doubt. >> correct. >> both mueller and congressional investigations found paul manafort was secretly meeting with an operative linked to russian intelligence. correct? >> that's my understanding, yes. >> man fort, while chairman of the trump campaign, gave that russian intelligence operative the campaign's internal polling

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get incriminating opposition research from a hostile government that is of financial value to a campaign. wouldn't that violate campaign laws? >> i don't know all those facts to be true. >> your report, mr. durham, doesn't dispute anything mueller found, did it? >> our object or aim was not to dispute director mueller. i have the highest regard for him. he is a patriot. >> the only disfinishing -- he refused to bring charges where he couldn't bring charges and you did. >> the gentleman from colorado is recognized. >> mr. durham, i want as a fellow aloam of d.o.j. thank you for your service, number one. number two, welcome you to congress. >> it is a real pleasure to be here. >> i want to ask you some

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