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a goal nor some sort of accomplishment that he was looking for in sharing these documents. of course, there's some anti-government sentiment. howard: it's a dilemma, why would journalists blow the whistle on a leaker disclosing classified secrets, which is a crime, when they'd eagerly accept such material which is not a crime? if the media agree with an i agenda such as when daniel ellsberg leaked the pentagon papers, they turned him into a hero. one crucial difference here, the top secret material wasn't given to a news outlet which could be held accountable, but mosted -- posted on...

Ron desantis is trying to weave a path with where he both doesn't upset the republican base and republican state lawmakers in florida but also doesn't draw attention to a policy that he himself would know is polarizing. howard: he's clearly going to run for president, and he's clearly trying to appeal to republican primary voters, but it's not like the rest of us are going to find out about. >> i don't think he thinks no one's going to know about it. [laughter] and in the equation, he is gin win and sincerely proof life. it depends on state. some states these kind of bans are completely fine a...