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Idea i hope he doesn't do it. >> would you fight him on it >> sure. because i think it's important -- look, i don't think we'll have to fight. i'm not sure they will do that it's an option they looked at. you are at the mercy of a district court and ultimately an appellate court. it may not withstand if you look at some of the other rulings we have seen. the other is the precedent it sets it's not a good precedent to set in terms of action it doesn't mean i don't want border security. i do i think that's the wrong way to achieve it it doesn't provide certainty you could wind up in a theatric v...

Himself? but then again he knows stuff about donald trump that nobody else does. >> the supreme court takes judicial notice of what's happening. the trump campaign was taking judicial notice of what stone was saying that indictment does not support bu but does not preclude real collusion. we have to find out who campaign one and two is, and i think they're going to jail along with roger stone. >> the campaign official -- rick gates smells like one of them. he may be cooperating. >> absolutely. i think it chips away at the white house the president's argument this doesn't touch him. pause strew...

Trump ultimately relied on to fire jim comey, and then the firestorm that ensued over the course of six, seven, eight days of rod rosenstein who had been lauded as sort of a non-partisan u.s. attorney who had served multiple presidencies through different party affiliations, he decided to right the wrong and did one of the most powerful things you can do, which is to appoint bob mueller. i think it is consistent of him to stand up for what he thinks he did that was correct, and i think it was correct. >> you know, it is interesting because this is a lengthy interview that he's granted to the "...

By other evidence? we don't know that yet, but something everyone involved in this will be looking at. >> go ahead. >> just a quick point, the other thing the president has discipline about saying is this is a question about the russian collusion. is he able in a benign outcome of all of this if it doesn't touch him directly, is he able to survive that a lot of things went on among people who are close to him that fell short of proving any kind of corroboration with the russians in the election? that's still a question everybody has to hold out. but the tipping point here is about what gives t...

Through the press. >> how does the president escape this one? >> he has enough bipartisan support, it doesn't touch him directly. but plenty of members of congress, far left, far right, fields like there need more information out there about what goes on. lawmaker, not the only ones fed up. enough of the government's cloak and dagger routine. so is the fisa court just a rubber stamp? former u.s. attorney general michael mukasey. >> the fisa court. i am critical when i look at the numbers. in year 2013 -- 2012, according to a letter sent to senate majority leader harry reid. 1,789 application...