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-- the next and possibly final hearing set for primetime thursday evening. president biden is on air force one after wrapping up his first trip to the middle east as commander-in-chief. -- the exchange with biden and mohammed bin salman al saud was direct, frank, and open and included president biden raising the issues of human rights and the murder of journalist jamal khashoggi. -- promised the u.s. will remain an active and engaged partner in the middle east. >> the united states is gonna remain an active and engaged partner in the middle east. as the world grows more competitive, ...

outside, contrasting us with other countries that knowingly don't have that. we're telling ourselves that we do, but, you know, from the very beginning and from all the most noble americans who have upheld that tradition, separation of church and state is just as good for the state as it is for the church. it is -- it protects religion as much as it protects the policy and giving it up that split endangers both. we play with that line a lot and it's in a really dangerous place on some parts of the ride right. >> so good on you. thank you. greatly appreciate it. >> thanks, my friend. ...

was listening to the great interesting conversation with kelly about it being difficult to prove -- but this stench think, you know, you remember there used to be a day when that kind of stuff just lead to shame in and of itself. and certainly kept you out of political life later. but that's not there anymore either. whether you can prove or not prove quid pro quo, that absence of revolving door that you described is compelling. >> well, the shame issue here, i, think is compelling, ali, because obviously, the republicans, particularly trump partisans, are aware that it is shameful t...

and certainly kept you out of political life later. but that's not there anymore either. whether you can prove or not prove quid pro quo, that absence of revolving door that you described is compelling. >> well, the shame issue here, i think, is compelling, ali, because obviously, the republicans, particularly trump partisans, are aware that it is shameful to use government service or family connection to government service, to make private gain for yourself, and have private business game. because they use this as a way to try to attack president biden's family, for example, all the...

The bill requires that each governor, quote, issues a certificate of ascertainment of appointment of electors, that shall be treated as conclusive. so, think about it like this. if election deniers like dog mastery on all of pennsylvania, or kerry lake of arizona, weighing in on the respective states, they could have the authority to certify the republican candidate as the winner of the presidential election in their states, even if that candidate actually lost the vote. now, voting rights attorney, marc elias, voiced his concern for this measure, writing in part, quote, the new bill failed to...