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Speak at the polling is also showing that people are not only not persuaded by what they are hearing, they are saying they be persuaded. look, i'm a democrat and i thought representative scalise's advice to my party was very goo good. we won the midterms based on health care, the environment, gun violence prevention. those are the issues on which the democrats can win. they are not going to win the election on impeachment, and if the president sticks to what bill clinton said and talks about the issues the country is facing and focuses on that, president trump will do better listening to the g...

President of the united states was trying to get the president of ukraine's cooperation in looking a the an american citizen? >> well, i don't think there's anything to look into in the sense that the president has voluntarily provided the transcripts of the conversation. you're telling me, which i'm not aware of the con tengtents of t april conversation but the president earlier today said he was going to release that. and the white house may have released that tonight. >> we know there was another call and that rudy giuliani was involved in that call, too, several times. "the new york times"...

Case. counselor, always a pleasure. >> thanks for having me, chris. appreciate it. >> good. just to check a box of transparency here, did you have anything to do with any of rudy's efforts with ukraine? >> no. it was not in my jurisdiction or my zone, so that was not something that i was familiar with or really involved with at all. >> so you weren't brought in for legal advice, for counsel? >> i will never discuss what legal advice i give the president of the united states. >> okay. >> as my client. so i'm not going to answer that question, but i will tell you this was not something i was inv...

Giuliani's involvement. with all due respect, i invited him back on the show. there's no reason for this to be personal. i think he's been inconsistent on things. was he there alone? was he there for the state department? did the president know? did he not know? that matters. >> can i ask you a question? >> was the state department involved? why was the a.g. involved? >> hold it. first of all, has there been any evidence of anything involving the a.g.? no. was rudy giuliani -- >> well, other than the president offering him up as hired help to the president of ukraine. >> hold it. you had rudy ...

Ground that, no, he's just talking about corruption. if he throws in the word corruption a couple times when giving that directive or suggesting that to his own attorney general, if it's not okay with your own attorney general or your own united states attorney -- and i don't think it is. i think it's a horrible -- and that would be an impeachable offense on its own. then how can it be appropriate to do that with a leader of another country with all the foreign policy implications on top of it? >> i happen to have a brilliant lawyer who supports the president. what is your response? >> well, o...