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Spheresly loyal to donald trump as we know. >> yes. >> has he done a good job representing his client here. >> no, don, i don't think he has. first of all, the idea that he would have -- look, jack -- congressman kingston is right that we haven't proven yet or no one has proven that this is a campaign finance violation. but it strains credulity first of all as joe and joan are saying to think he would have gone out and done this of his own volition without any motive. >> david stop there. you have a juris doctorate. >> i do. >> does that stand up in court even though it strains credulity. beca...

Representing his client here. >> no, don, i don't think he has. first of all, the idea that he would have -- look, jack -- congressman kingston is right that we haven't proven yet or no one has proven that this is a campaign finance violation. but it strains credulity first of all as joe and joan are saying to think he would have gone out and done this of his own volition without any motive. >> david stop there. you have a juris doctorate. >> i do. >> does that stand up in court even though it strains credulity. because michael cohen believes he has iron clad document that they violated. >> yo...