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Did they put on a trial, do they call witnesses, do they get it over with as soon as possible? from a political point of view, trying to come out on top, what advice do you give? >> ari: i'm a traditionalist, i would hold a serious trial, whatever length of time it needs to take, don't rush it, don't drag it out but don't call extraneous witnesses. they are so weak, they are so flimsy, it would be easy for them to get rid of them and move on and not impeach and not but don't call hunter biden, don't call joe biden. call hearing in every thing will come out, it never works that way. >> melissa:...

Though, don't rush it. go to the courts. referenced the mcgahn situation which he supported. said he should go to court over mcgahn and predicted they would win and they did win. trying to expose the partisanship and politics in it over rushing of the issue you just raised. >> the rushing? the rushing? you do know how long the mcgahn case has been pending? how long it's still going to be pending making its stately way through the d.c. circuit and then soar sfor siruptation? file 30 lawsuits and maybe win some day -- >> can i ask you a legal question. >> by all means. so if this is of the highe...

There is, should be some level of transparency in government, and so -- if it's no big deal, prove it's no big deal. >> your point is so important and you don't even have to interfere with the attorney/client privilege to answer that question, because if you were doing a legitimate, an investigation that was being responded to legitimately, you know, i understand why rudy giuliani can't be a witness. the attorney/client privilege is a serious thing and that, to me, is legitimate. >> the legal work you do -- >> put that issue aside. you can talk to the office of management and budget people to ...

They get through next week i don't know but they will be working. >> the next three weeks. >> right. but next week -- today only one hearing this week and may only have one hearing. next week it's not just one day. >> what do you think -- your guess is what? next week that hearing and then draw up articles of impeachment? >> certainly by the end of next week we will see the articles of impeachment. i don't -- i sort of doubt voted on next week. even the way john laid out the schedule, which i think is accurate. next week we'll see articles of impeachment. perhaps early in the week. >> while aw...