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Succeed and he of course played in to that with his own mistakes. but there really was an enemy group out there who just wanted to take him down. >> i don't think there's any doubt about that. it's hard to understand where that came from. there was this feeling, the illegitimacy, republicans felt that, some republicans felt that clinton didn't deserve to be president. it had to do with his sort of embodiment of the '60s morality, the '60s, everything that they thought was wrong with the 1960s. which wasn't really fair. clinton was never a, you know, draft card-burning, although there was a dra...

>> if there is a question -- >> lead us out. give us a solution. >> if ir that is a question as to whether someone is eligible to vote or not, let's air on the side of enfranchising them. we say, well, there is a question. you can cast your ballot. we are going to set it aside. we are going to check our data and see if you in fact can vote. if you can't, we will throw it out or prosecute you. if you can, we need to count that vote. >> here is the more radical solution. i was thinking about this. i now talk about my daughter all the time i realize i am talking about the daughter all the time. s...

Now. it's been a problem for decades. as the governor of arizona herself indicated, what did george bush do during his eight years? did he do anything to solve this problem? >> he tried. >> he tried, karen, and he got no support. >> again, point being, this has been a problem for a very long time. i think just trying to pin this specifically and squarely on barack obama when, pat, other times you say he's taking on too much is a little, you know, out of bounds. the second thing -- >> let me respond to that. >> let me respond to the other thing you said, pat. it's my understanding that actually...

>> failure to act responsibly at the federal level will only open the door to irresponsibility by others. that includes, for example, the recent efforts in arizona which threaten to undermine basic notions of fairness that we cherish as americans, as well as the trust between police and their communities that is so crucial to keeping us safe. >> expect some good conversation here from my boys, msnbc political analyst pat buchanan and democratic strategist peter fenn. good morning, guys. >> morning, alex. >> morning, alex. >> pat, isn't the president right in this sense? this gives the police t...

Bipartisan -- >> no, no. >> i'm asking this of maria. >> i'm sorry. i didn't hear the last part. >> latino voters, be they republicans or democrats, what will they do if this law passes and is signed as of saturday by the governor of arizona? >> the latino republican party already has said that they're going to go and literally, their words, we're going to smoke her out, the governor of arizona. and it's because they're upset. they have every reason to be upset. arizona right now is, and i completely agree we really, i'll send you the statement. it's definitely true. this is what's disturbing ...