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Proceedings with the California Public Utilities Commission that we are following closely that will intersect with cleanpowersf that is the Energy Efficient portfolio where the rules are being set for efficiency programs can operate and that included Community Choice aggregators and marin has been fighting on this alone and im hoping we can join with them from the cleanpowersf perspective to fight about the proceedings that will benefit San Francisco and the second is generating proceeding which is opening and we are just starting to follow that. Im not going to report anything on that. A thir...

Is really committed to this and is making it a priority we will have a meeting in january. I guess if we dont it will show the level of the lack of commitment on the part of this agency but i think if the commitment is there a meeting in january shouldnt be a problem. Thank you and i want to express that concern as well. I think there is a lot of urgency that we want to keep invected into all of this discussion and movement on cleanpowersf, so i actually like the idea of staff getting together from lafco staff and puc staff getting together as soon as possible. I am around during the holidays ...

Vote, to have a presentation that we can then give to the puc and say this is how we see this plan working, and this is what we offer to you, and after having a discussion with enernex and a discussion internally to say what is it that we want . Because if we start discussing it the way i see it with puc it starts changing before our eyes and i would like us to have something solid because there is room to move a little bit but at the end of the day this is what were presenting and the way we would like to see it. I think there are staff issues to deal with before the discussion with enernex b...

That new set of concerns would come up, and so it was really about having both agencies in the room so that we could on the same page. If people feel there is no longer a need to do that i am open to do that but i am surprised to see if things have changed and we dont need that anymore so i am open to what counsel said but i would also say this i would have a problem if we cant do a joint meeting in january. I dont see why we wouldnt be able to do a joint meeting in january. I dont think i think that if the puc is really committed to this and is making it a priority we will have a meeting in j...

Pressure on the Public Utilities commission. Our experience with this project has been that unless were in the same room hearing directly from them about what their concerns are the experience in the past has been that new set of concerns would come up, and so it was really about having both agencies in the room so that we could on the same page. If people feel there is no longer a need to do that i am open to do that but i am surprised to see if things have changed and we dont need that anymore so i am open to what counsel said but i would also say this i would have a problem if we cant do a ...