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really not very good. >> why did you lose? >> well, i did -- i -- what i managed to do was start ahead, raise a lot of money and do enough things wrong over a long enough period of time that i managed to pull out defeat and i ran against a really nice guy who was evan bayh, lieutenant governor. evan was a very popular governor. we actually got along quite well. >> frank o'bannon? >> frank o'bannon. i was running on a platform of change who just said, you know, "i kind of like the way things are. i don't know if i want your platform of change." i had a very acrimonious primary and tha...

strange idea. i'm not sure i'm ready for it." and he said, "look. this is probably last april. it's the greatest city in the world, large footprint, a place where reform and innovation would be appreciated. how could you say no?" so i said, "that makes sense. i'll say yes." >> so how long have you been on the job? >> i've been on the job about six months. >> what was the first thing you noticed once you got inside the city hall? >> well, i mean, i'm a great fan of urban spaces, the diversity, the energy, the activity, the opportunity. i've worked on and off with most of the large ci...