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But you're right, they are the two front-runners in the republican primary field. trump a lot more ahead of desantis at this point. but desantis hasn't been able or willing to take a swing at the former president and it is because he's trying to also appeal to those trump voters that love him so much. but, yet, trump has this unique ability that we have seen over the last, you know, six, seven years of him being in politics to minimize his opponents with these degrading nicknames or zeroing in on something like the desanctimonious that is now ingrained in our brains over and over. and desantis...

It about electability. he's basically saying, yes, i think trump is getting railroaded, it's unfair, but trump cannot win. the problem for ron desantis is in poll after poll, gop voters still believe overwhelmingly that trump is the most electable candidate against joe biden in 2024. they see a certain sort of toughness to him. ron desantis is trying to get at the edges of that and make an electability argument. the problem is that so far voters have not responded to that argument. if anything, his poll numbers have gone down. he is still hustling on the campaign trail. he did six events in io...

So we could expect his arrival here at any moment. in the meantime, i want to zoom out just for a quick second and give everyone a snapshot of what's happening on the ground when it comes to this gop presidential primary. new polling from fox business showing that trump is at 46%. the person in second place, that's governor ron desantis at 16%. so you can see what a hold he still has on the primary here in iowa. and so many of these candidates, desantis and the others trying to find a plane to break out with these voters to make that moment where they can connect with the voters and convince t...

I want to go to nikki haley's remarks. she's trying that pragmatic electability argument to trump voters say, yes, i support him, too, but he can't win. is there any evidence that's the messaging that's going to reach anybody? >> you know better than me trying to parse this bubble gum speak coming out of the mouths of these people. it's just banal attempts to placate. it's frustrating. do you want to be president? you have to go through the guy sitting at 52% among the republican base. otherwise, get out of the race. stop wasting our time. you're not going to take him on, then why are you in t...

Different. >> and i found that calendar to be fascinating. re looking at the first months of 2024 being dominated by a series of primaries as well as trial dates and yet when you look at those iowa and south carolina polls that came out today on fox news, donald trump is winning the electability argument. republican primary voters still see him as the candidate. and that is the consolidation over his own party and the challenge for other candidates even as he's facing a potential indictment over january 6 aren't able to attack him on that issue. >> not only are they not able to, they're doing ...