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To you. >> and aggressively going after it. >> and aggressively having a back and forth. where at some point we see that joe biden is there because he knows he has to be and there is a big difference in that. >> i think you raised something earlier, susan, that is going to be interesting. and that is the electability question becomes questioned if in the early caucuses he doesn't do well and someone like an elizabeth warren if she consistently upsets iowa and given she may win new hampshire does that all switch? and i think that that's the gamble that he's making. but let's switch topics. pres...

Returned to the mean. but who knows. >> i mean, there was a heck of a breakout moment for kamala harris. if she could repeat that in a way that furthers her campaign, it's going to be remarkable. if you're buttigieg, o'rourke, harris, klobuchar, castro, yang, i mane this must be so frustrating to know it has essentially been unyielding no matter what momentum you have. you're getting on this debate stage. you're one of ten people. and here you are still on the outskirts of the stage hoping to have that one moment to talk to you. i hope that's going to translate to people seeing them as powerle...

Insider survey, a survey monkey poll, they say they worry that the party nominee will be too far to the left. 12% said they worry it will be too centrist. do you think that tells us anything about the electability question? is it as true for someone as polarizing as trump? >> i don't think anyone thought he was a centrist in 2019, but i will say i went through the p y primaries are pulling them to the left. you can talk about issues and maybe talk about what is necessary, and in 12 and 16 democrats were the incumbents, they sat back, they watched, they waited, and now the shoe is on the other ...

Electability question. very important to democrats. but i think there's a sense that he could falter. then someone else would have to rise. we don't know who that is at this point. >> jill biden can be right and still wrong about her husband. the central question for democrats is nominating someone who is electable, who isn't going to scare off those voters who a democrat desperately needs. >> is that you essentially? basically republicans who don't like trump? >> no, look, i think it's a lot of voters who have voted for bill clinton, voted for george w. bush, voted for barack obama. i think i...

Concerned. for now, let's go to our pollster power panel joining me is tom bevan cofounder and president of real clear politics. chris wilson, digital strategy director for senator ted cruz's 2016 campaign. tom, let's start withtr you. should the similarities between joe and hillary have team biden worried? >> i think they should, and i think you make a pretty good argument of the similarities between the two candidates. at this point in 2008, in the race, democratic primary race hillary clintone, was up over 20 points over barack obama. she led that race all the way until barack obama won iow...