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Rationale for impeachment, quote, i have said before truch is not worthy of impeachment, but our constitution is worth it, our democracy is worth it and our republic, if we can save it, the worth it. up with me this morning is ben rhodes, an msnbc contributor. someone hofs on the call with nancy pelosi yesterday. adriana, laura from "the new york times" editorial board, rena shaw and with us from washington this morning is eli, a white house report rer for the los angeles times. let me try here a little bit. summarize if you can what the messaging is here house leadership. i don't know how exp...

For this white house because ultimately, they understand this to be a political matter, not a a legal matter. they were right about the way they defended themselves from the mueller veinvestigation. ultimately, it workeded, but in this case, the politics, if the politics move, they don't really have a plan. you know for republicans who are already trying to avoid reporters. who are already looking foolish trying not to answer the question of whether or not it's okay for a president to ask a foreign country for interference, if they get frustrated and see public opinion moving in the wrong dire...

I know that yesterday there was a full day of testimony and i want to see what was said before i cast my vote. but serply, we don't have to cast a vote before we do this. no person being investigated, no suspect goes ahead and tells the investigate or this is the way u should do it. >> absolutely not. >> eli, let's get your reaction to that and have you comment on what we've seen over these last two nights. we've seen the president doing a one man show with a lot of role-playing and impersonations. he seems different to me. wilder, obsessed by this in way he hasn't been before. your reaction t...

Says, hey, he thinks will be one of the decisionmaking elements for americans as we head into the 2020 campaign saying do you want me to be fighting china or do you want joe biden to be the one fighting it? it's obvious this is sort of a fight the president thinks benefits him. >> absolutely right. peter alexander, thanks for rushing to the camera. really appreciate it. vaughn hillyard. eli stoke bs. stay with us. we're going to continue to monitor the president's comments and we will, again bring them to you if, in fact, he does make that expected announcement on trade that he's rolling back ...

Whether or not we had an obligation to inform khashoggi that he was in danger. >> let me go to eli, my friend. it seems to me if we threw this case that they've thrown at us before at an american jury, it wouldn't go very far. 15 guys got into a boxing match and a guy died? but we couldn't tell you for 17 days. >> right. and you're supposed to believe this investigation that's coming, that the crown prince is supposedly going to be leading. >> like nixon was leading the cover-up vex. >> yes, you're right. but these are not normal times. we live in such a tribal polarized country right now. you...