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Without nuclear weapons. they were trying to convince the world that nuclear weapons don't have utility. you need hundreds of them, never be able to compete with the united states. that's not true. any nation that gets just one bomb because of emp, basically becomes a nuclear superpower that could threaten the existence of the united states. it didn't fit into the narrative of a world without nuclear weapons. and didn't fit into the narrative about the iran nuclear deal. if iran had one bomb, okay, you know that would defeat the whole purpose of the iran nuclear deal because they wouldn't need...

Getting knocked down and transformers being damaged. if you can survive the worst threat, the nuclear emp attack, you will be able to come back much more quickly from the lesser threats. not just for the rare exotic scenario of terrorist nuclear emp attack, it would improve the security on tornadoes, hurricanes, ice storms that cause blackouts. you don't have to be a physicist to see the grid is at risk. if you look at history of blackouts and the long recovery times that are required after there's these hurricanes, you can see there's something wrong. look at puerto rico, you know? you know, ...

House wearing black pants and no shirt. there is north korean propaganda along the border. south korea hopes to help foster an environment for peaceful talks. they will meet for their third summ. i'm kelly wright. t. now back to "life, liberty & levin.". mark: welcome back. all right, dr. pry, now what can we do to defend ourselves? >> there's really no excuse for the united states to be vulnerable to emp or cybercatastrophes to bring down the grid or physical sabotage. all can be protected against, if you protect against the worst threat. the nuclear emp attack, we've known how to do that for...

Emp. mark: welcome back, dr. peter pry. what would be, before we get to the question of how do we protect ourselves? the question is, we need to figure out how we might be attacked? what are the different scenarios, i'm sure there are many, which a country might want to shut down our electrical grid? >> north korea could shut down our grid by an emp attack off a satellite. they in fact have two satellites orbiting over this country as we speak that pass over us several times a day, at optimal altitude to evade our national defense systems. mark: how would they make an emp field? >> detonate th...

Emp. mark: welcome back, dr. peter pry. what would be, before we get to the question of how do we protect ourselves? the question is, we need to figure out how we might be attacked? what are the different scenarios, i'm sure there are many, which a country might want to shut down our electrical grid? >> north korea could shut down our grid by an emp attack off a satellite. they in fact have two satellites orbiting over this country as we speak that pass over us several times a day, at optimal altitude to evade our national defense systems. mark: how would they make an emp field? >> detonate th...