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How the hell does this happen? in the end o'brien convinces trump to nullify the memo as we all know he didn't pull out the troops. but it shows two things. it shows that trump was willing to do an end run on his national security and military advisers. it also shows for all the criticism now that trump and some of his allies are making about biden's withdrawal from afghanistan, he had just signed an order to get out very, very quickly. >> okay. even more quickly. >> right. >> and there's other new details. we know about the dysfunction in the white house at that time. especially the tension b...

Correct and possible. when -- if democrats, one day, want to do a similar law for taking guns. or people who are anti-guns. what if they say, well, we can do this in our state for -- for guns? so why don't we do that? and then, the supreme court won't be able to challenge us and we can go around getting your guns. i'm just saying. you know, it's a hypothetical. but that's what conservatives should really be concerned about is what does this -- what does this set a precedent for? are you setting a precedent in the future? i know you think it's a win when it comes to roe v. wade. but it is also ...

House probably gave merrick garland a sense that this is a good suit to file, but i think it's not going to go anywhere. >> right. it reminds me of the eviction moratorium, paul. this was filed for political reasons. i think this is a side show. a lot of people would like to see roe overturned, see the issue return to the states and let it be decided on a state by state basis, but how you go about doing that matters. we have a rule of law in this country which includes judicial review, and this texas action is really an end-run around that, and it can be abused in other cases by someone who do...

And we're already seeing florida, oklahoma, other states piggyback on this as an end run around the constitution itself. and it's really an ugly scenario, which is why, under the standard for granting immediate relief, i don't understand why the supreme court didn't stop this, because the standard includes harm to people. of course, women and their family and friends are being harmed. and harm to the public interest. this kind of law is unprecedented. and we just don't know where it's going to go on the ground in texas. >> that leads me to my next question, right? it is unprecedented. the fact...

Constitutional rights. ruth, good to see you. thank you for with being with us this morning. you've made an interesting point. i've been talking about this. but you summed it up in your column. i want to read our viewers a portion from it in which you say congratulations, texas, you did it. you figured out a way to write an anti-abortion law that everyone agrees is unconstitutional under current law and ensure the women whose rights are violated don't have the ability to challenge it in court. a five justice supreme court majority instead of slapping down this end run around the constitution a...