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it was too much. it was an issue. >> let's fast-forward to october of 2010. on the bill o'reilly show, one of the riff about muslims and 9/11 and you way and. you basically had two lines, two things you were trying to get across. first of all you describe that yourself could or did feel uncomfortable getting on an airplane and what did you follow that with? >> what i said was to set it up a little bit, muslims killed us on 9/11 and the context was an argument that he had had about a location of a mosque near ground zero and that is when he made the comment muslims killed us on 9/...

abortion to gun control to healthcare that we are not able to have a healthy debate because of the kinds of things that did you win at npr. >> that is right. i wanted to drive this point home because often when i do interviews about the book, we stop with the npr episode but that is only the first chapter of the book. 90% of the book is about larger condition of honest debate in american society and how this week is a year since this happened to me. but how in fact what i discovered is after feeling smeared and fired at her that this was about much more than me. this was about so man...

children, and i don't think anyone could argue it's emotionally devastating to be taken away from everybody you know at two and a half and be returned to them at the age of four. i think felicia started life with a particular deficit, and i came to really like her in the course of writing the book, and i know that, you know, maybe not all that objective of me to say, but she was a really extraordinary woman, and i think it's an amazing thing to pick yourself up and start afresh and, you know, turn over a new leaf like that, but to do it at a time when people just didn't acknowledge a...

she just gave birth so she's been off a little while but did a tour across america to bring attention to this matter and what's the name of i think she had a term for the blue legacy is her website, thank you, and i would encourage people interested to check that out and you will see the results of her tour. she documented it and found a lot of the problems that exist across the country bringing attention and we are proud to have her on the team. >> i would only say that it is a huge subject and the way we cover it is across almost, you know, we have a beverage category that's releva...

i came back to cleveland and i talk for a year in the science department and was fortunate to win a scholarship and spend a year at the woodrow wilson international center for scholars in washington where i was able to interview people in the think tank and policy community and give the book a broader context in the institution of governance in american democracy. i was able to access all kinds of archives. washington and delaware and in new york at the rockefeller archive center and in new jersey so i was able to go back in history and see if the kinds of things that i found when i ...