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into former president trump's efforts to overturn the 2020 election. former vice president mike pence appears before a federal grand jury offering what could be critical testimony about trump's role in the january 6th capitol attack. and as pence was testifying the former president took his 2024 campaign to new hampshire. trump ignore his legal troubles and instead focused his attacks on president biden and other potential white house opponents. and also breaking this morning, russia launches new attacks across ukraine hitting a residential building in the central part of the count...

World. >> and certainly evan gerschkovich will be front of mind at the white house correspondent's dinner. and the president's family going to be attendance. certainly we all hope he's out-and-out soon. the administration also announced sanctions in iran and russia in response to these exact kind of detentions. do we think this will have any sort of impact, and if not what other levers does the u.s. have to play? >> i don't think they'll have an immediate impact. these are individuals and espionage agencies that have been sanctioned before, so i don't think that will dramatically change their ...

Svr would not have been able to get to donald trump and ask him a question, but civilian sub contractors are, because they are not assets that can be quickly and easily identified as members of russian intelligence and that's where i think it's successful. >> jack, i have less than one minute. if she were the pro that you were, a full immersion pro spy, would you imagine what she could have accomplished in this country? >> oh, yeah, very, very, very dangerous. but i just want to say, i agree wholeheartedly with the assessment there's other contributors, folks that are not employees of espionag...

Trump. like you said, real trained officers, case officers of the svr would not have been able to get it donald trump and ask him a question. but civilian subcontractors can because they are not actually assets that could be quickly and easily identified as members of russian intelligence. and that's where i think it's successful. >> jack, i have less than a minute. if she'd been the pro that you were, if she'd been a full immersion pro spy, can you imagine what she could have accomplished in this country? >> oh, yeah. very, very dangerous. i just want to say i agree wholeheartedly with the as...

Because they are not actually assets that could be quickly and easily identified as members of russian intelligence. and that's where i think it's successfu successful. >> jack, i have less than a minute. if she'd been the pro that you were, if she'd been a full immersion pro spy, can you imagine what she could have accomplished in this country? >> oh, yeah. very, very dangerous. i just want to say i agree wholeheartedly with the assessment that there's a whole lot more sort of contributors, unofficial folks that are not employees of espionage agencies that russia sends out these days. this di...