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Examining a similar situation that bush got us into. Well, first and foremost, i would just say george w. Bush did get us in in a dramatic way into this caldron. And for republicans not to admit that is wrong. And so thats number one. We should not have jumped in with the United States military with the huge occupation force into iraq to change the situation. I would have certainly supported at that time arming the kurds against Saddam Hussein as im supportive now that you have to make sure very well that the people youre working with are, number one, do not have a long term, how do you say, a...

We dont want to do this because we know its hard and we know you dont like it. It would be better if you would make it clear that were not doing this because its not going to work. Its not the most effective way to confront these forces. So, you know, both will task you with going to the p tresident a work on his messaging. But its important how its presented to the American People and how we build support for this program. On the issue of finding sunni partners. I still contend that is the key. If we find enough sunnis in iraq and syria who are willing to fight against isis, thats when well s...

Strategy. But i think the American People get confused. And if we explain to them, look, boots on the ground means no combat forces. Or boots on the ground mean were not going to do shock and awe or whatever. But we are going to have our people there. And there are certain things that they have to do, and without them, we cant be successful in this battle. And i think i think they can accept that. And they can theyre smart enough to figure it out. And if they think theyre not hearing the truth, the whole truth, i think then they get they kind of get their backs up. I think its also very import...