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Mr. giuliani, i think that's too simplistic. what mr. giuliani has said in the past few days paints a very ominous picture of the amount of support for his efforts that was found within the executive bran. he told fox news just the other night he has always been following orders from the state department. the fact that they sent him on a mission last night, i believe it was. he also very helpfully for those who are aware of the freedom of information act, he held up his phone and said's all here. we know he's backed other u.s. ambassadors. what's more interesting is secretary of state mike pom...

The trump campaign let the russians get involved in a way na again we may not be able to prove illegality, maybe we can, maybe we can't, but is bad for us with the job of robert mueller? >> yeah, i think we have not only a need to know but a right to know. let's face it the executive branch doesn't have any oversight responsibilities of the executive bran were. congress has the oversight responsibilities. so if bob mueller finds a whole lot of wrong doing and two-timing and financial shenanigans, but he decides for whatever reason that it doesn't rise to the level of a crime or that the presid...

Justice department. it is sortov of an incredible thing. >> now the attorney general has responded in a fairly extraordinary statement saying in part that i did take control of the department of justice the day i was sworn in. joining me now is someone that at in that office. you see danger in the president aes ie tacks here, explain. >> it is a remarkable exchange, isn't it? the president said the executive bran, and he decides who resides in his cabinet and i think it

And the forced separation of parents and children. >> we are enforcing the laws passed by congress, and we are executive bran to protect our communities. >> we'll fact check the secretary of homeland security coming up. heart of the matter. former first lady laura bush delivers a condemnation of the parent-child separation policy, comparing it to the inattorneyment inattorney mentinternment of japanese-americans. >> what this administration has decided to do is separate children from their pents to send a message that if you cross the border with children, your children are going to be rippe...

Impeachment being -- >> but the court hasn't ruled on that. >> let me ask you about the impeachment idea because giuliani said the president would be impeached if he were to pardon himself. and others agreed. let's listen. >> the president of the united states pardoning himself would just be unthinkable, and it would lead to probably an immediate impeachment. >> there's no way that will happen. because then it becomes a political problem. if the president were to pardon himself, he'll get impeached. >> if the president decided to pardon himself, i think that's almost self-executing impeachment...