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Instead, what the president listened to with putin and orban and giuliani and it soured his view on the ukrainians and that instead of trying to go to support the ukrainians, that's when the president then instead went to them for a favor to dig up dirt in the political campaign. so i do think we see this from a foreign policy point of view as a very depressing disappointing and dangerous exercise of diplomacy by a president who simply isn't going to get reined in. that meeting with orban according to john went for an hour with no note taker. >> and you know, the president, you know, has suspi...

Cooperation with the new president unless he comes across with the dirt on biden. it's all going on at the same time. now, whether that originated with the phone call from putin in may or, you know, other sources from giuliani, who has his own connections in ukraine, you know, we certainly don't know that. >> business connections, yeah. >> but the thing about all the evidence is that it all fits together. i mean it all fits together in an explanation that the president just didn't want anything to do with ukraine unless they could come across with dirt. and every piece of evidence that has com...

Okay? we don't use the power and prestige of america to beat on people for political purposes. i think of a lofty foreign policy of dean atchison and paul nitsy and henry kissinger where we're promoting u.s. interests, not the banal commercial interests of particular people. >> if the president of the united states was holding taxpayer money over the head of the president of ukraine, who is trying to fend his countries from a russian attack, and the president's using taxpayer money in order to get dirt on the bidens to help him in a political campaign that's coming up, would that to you be an ...

Time. thank you, neil, again. appreciate it. >> tip my hat. >> absolutely. >> thanks, don. >> thank you, everyone, for watching. really appreciate it. i'm don lemon. our coverage continues. good evening. all roads lead to putin. that is what house speaker nancy pelosi famously said about president trump. tonight there's breaking news on what could be yet another road. "the washington post" tonight reporting on conversations the president had with vladimir putin and the hungarian prime minister. the headline, putin and hungary orban helped sour trump on ukraine. according to the report, which...

Your knees. he would have dropped to his knees. >> maybe only if you called him pierre delecto, jeanne moos cnn. >> oh, yeah. >> new york. >> thank you for joining us, anderson starts now. good evening, all roads lead to putin. that is what house speaker nancy pelosi famously said about president trump. tonight there's breaking news on what could be yet another road. "the washington post" tonight reporting on conversations the president had with vladimir putin and hungarian prime minister. the post headline, putin and hungary's orban helped sour trurp on ukraine, according to the report, the...