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Who say that was a starting point. we're okay with people building on it. the sad thing is, and the thing that people say is frustrating for them is when people say, well, we need to pull that out completely, and start all over again. democrats in the obama administration recognize how hard that's going to be. >> so mika, again, biden is going to be talking tonight about mending it, and not ending it. and again, you look at how difficult that was to pass. it's going to be fascinating. i would love to hear progressives tonight on stage when they start talking about, oh, no, no, obamacare is a s...

Away. i think a lot of them want to fix obamacare, want to make changes to the system, have affordable health care but they don't want to have the system overhauled because they remember how difficult it was to get this passed in the first place. >> it will be interesting tonight as we look ahead, joe biden on stage with kamala harris, cory booker and others, the centrist is the man leading the race. in other words, last night, the centrists who were pushing back frankly were fringe candidates, polling down low single digits. the man in the middle of the stage will be pushing back against medi...

Having. and joe biden is going to need to show a better command of the fight that democrats put up stage than last time but be able with. to tie those two things george bush once said, it's together. hard, it's hard, and the people a practical approach but also big ideas. are going around throwing around >> jessica, millennials and joe promises, they sound an awful lot like donald trump's promises for universal health care, very biden's age? >> it's interesting. easy to make promises on the millennials tell us by majority that they do not make choices by campaign stage. elizabeth warren said t...

Progressive, bold ideas who wants to redo the entire system. when i talk to voters, they're in some ways split on that. they like the idea of building on obamacare if you're a democrat, especially if you're someone who was a fan of the president, but then there are people who are saying, look, obamacare is really expensive. i want something that is bigger than that. most democrats that i talked to recognize how long it took for democrats to get health care passed in it country, and they're very worried that they're not sure that if the republicans hold on to the senate, democrats will be able ...

Concerns that more moderate and there is a loft concet of c democrats have about the direction of the party and the direction this primary is about the damage he could do the next four years. heading. >> that's the bottom line. we'll see if we see more of that it will be so interesting to see tonight. >> what's interesting mike how it goes tonight and from barnicle, is that you did have your readers tomorrow. that give and take. you did have the back and forth, the question seems to be who can and i think a lot of people beat trump, and i think joe biden has a lot on the line have -- i can't s...