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60s who were diagnosed only 3% 12 dae. three out of the 26. that is the indication of the over treatment there was actually a vote in the integration committee earlier in the decade that said more money for the defense department ought to go to seeing how to take the money away from the studies of the biologic behavior of the prostate cancer so we lead to our emotions i am very emotional because i want men to get the right thing and i know i am hearing that men are not getting the right information. the gentleman s time is expired i yield to mr. cummings a. thank you very much. doctor, let me ask you this or any other panelist, the problem is i think lou gossett said it earlier when he was talking about african american men but he could apply it to them then point . they are squeamish about the prostate and in the exam and and so i am trying to figure out they already are not likely to go and for the exam and don t want to talk about it so how do you make the jump ....