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And history is on your side that you will pick up a couple of seats. that's what really explains him driving up the garden state parkway today. >> power for the sake of exploiting the same. that's what mccarthy's about. >> sure. >> and look, i'm not blaming him for doing it. i'm using it as a rex of the perversity that has become our politics. that is the game. he's playing the right game. now, why does this matter? because the road map of scrambled eggs, david, that i was laying out for people, it is about the embrace of misinformation. he's to blame, he did everything okay. there's a fraud f...

Parkway today. power for the sake of exploiting. >> i'm not blaming him for doing it. i'm using it as the perversity of politics. he is playing the right game. now, why does this matter? the road ma'am of scrambled eggs that i was playing, it is about the base of misinformation. he's to blame. he did everything okay. there's a fraud farce. biden is elected. they're all over the place. and misinformation is okay. we're now hearing the white house wants to take it on with respect to the pandemic. what does it mean that right after the white house called on social media platforms to combat the sp...

Ourselves in december and january. what about where we find ourselves now and this concern from your former agency that this reinstatement talk, these misinformation campaigns that all kind of blend together, whether it's the fraud farce or the vaccination, that it's creating an animus and a rejection of the institution of government that could cause violence? how real do you think that threat is? >> chris, we live in a world where large slices of republicans believe the election was stolen. there was a survey that came out in the last couple of weeks that a full 15% of americans, not 15% of r...

Misinformation campaigns, that all kind of blend together, the fraud farce or the vaccination, that it is creating an animus and a rejection of the institution of government that could cause violence. how real do you think that threat is? >> chris, we live in a world where large slices of republicans believe the election was stolen. there was a survey that came out the last couple of weeks that a full 15% of americans, not 15% of republicans, 15% of americans ascribe to the qanon theory. my old agency is telling me along with the law enforcement community, that the pot is boiling. it boiled ov...

Officials for months to announce voting irregularities in the 2020 election. wouldn't that be by definition fraud? recall what clint hickman, the guy at the center of this, said on this show. >> i told people that were close to the trump campaign, with all this litigation that was going on, i said just hey, just do me a favor, i can't talk to anyone while this is being litigated. and that stayed true all the way up till that new year's weekend. i got a phone call from the white house switchboard. >> arizona's secretary katie hobbs joins us right now. secretary of state, thank you very much. an...