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Were re-emerging as a kind of pretext even though as you've seen they didn't all work. indeed, senate republicans were trying to get that fraudulent elector material to pence on that very day with pence's aide pushing back, don't give him that. that's the elector fraud stuff. this was, as you see on your screen, within roughly 20 minutes of pence arriving and over 130 republicans did vote to object to the certification including eight republican senators. so these different disparate plots are not disparate. they all congeal and then you have trump sending what he knew were armed people to the...

I don't know that that makes a lot of sense, given the amount of work prosecutors still need to do. >> glenn, let's talk about the oath keepers trial. within that courtroom today, one of the leaders, stewart rhodes, took the stand. >> so, i think the big reveal was when his little boy are what happened. asked him, sir, do you believe the election was stolen? and he said, i believe, and i have concluded, the election was invalid and unconstitutional. his words. but then the surprise was rhodes went on to explain that, it wasn't because of all this fraud stuff as he put it. but it was because so...

Was when his little boy are asked him, sir, do you believe the election was stolen? and he said, i believe, and i have concluded, the election was invalid and unconstitutional. his words. but then the surprise was rhodes went on to explain that, it wasn't because of all this fraud stuff as he put it. but it was because some of the states had changed the voting protocols as a result of the pandemic. so, apparently somebody made stewart rhodes the arbiter of what is and is not a constitutional presidential election. he determined it was unconstitutional and he hopefully told the jury point blank...

Trump's fixation on one of last red arrows. getting mike pence to attempt a coup. >> if mike pence does the right thing, we win the election. >> i hope mike has the courage to do what he has to do. >> and trump kept pushing pence on this, as late as january 4th, and those other unlawful plots were re-emerging as a kind of pretext, even though as you've seen, they didn't all work. indeed, senate republicans were trying to get that fraudulent elector material to pence on that very day, with pence's aide pushing back, don't give him that, that's the elector fraud stuff. this was, as you see on th...

All of that sworn testimony from republicans now asserting on camera it was all a lie? >> well, first, nicolle, i'm going to take this time to say all the trump supporters, if you send me millions of dollars, i can get to the bottom of this fraud stuff, so just start sending me also millions and millions of dollars because i'm pretty sure i can get to the bottom of this fraud. but look, to a certain extent, the testimony -- i think you'll see democrats using the testimony and hopefully fingers crossed in campaigns moving forward into the fall, but to a certain extent, does it matter? and look,...